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Old March 11th, 2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Stealing VoIP Minutes

Newsweek published an article, Stealing Minutes, highlighting carrier VoIP minute theft by phreakers.

Phreakers steal the minutes and resell them on the black market.

The author contacted us a few weeks ago and we provided him with some contacts.
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Old March 12th, 2007, 05:48 PM
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Being neither a telecom company nor a phreaker, I am obviously no expert on the subject. However when the article says "These thieves steal 200 million minutes a month, worth $26 million" or 13 cents per minute - my hype radars go up!
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However when the article says "These thieves steal 200 million minutes a month, worth $26 million" or 13 cents per minute - my hype radars go up!
It easily could be plausible.

After all, while domestic minutes in say the USA/Canada are usually worth much less than 13 cents per minute (sometimes as low as 1 cent per minute, or less), it's easily to believe that a significant portion of stolen minutes are for costly international calls (because at least some thieves would know that is where the money is to be made). So even if a lot of the minutes stolen are only worth say 1 cent per minute, it wouldn't take too many calls to several dollars a minute locations to significantly raise the "average" value of the minutes stolen (and yes, there are still places in the world that cost several dollars a minute to call)...
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Being neither a telecom company nor a phreaker, I am obviously no expert on the subject. However when the article says "These thieves steal 200 million minutes a month, worth $26 million" or 13 cents per minute - my hype radars go up!

I wonder how much the phreakers actually get?
I would say its a lot less than that.
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wow, another voip security information. Cool. thanks for sharing.
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