[kieranmullen2]

As I understand it pg provides no dids (according to their services section of their website) Clients register their phone numbers in their system, does phonegnome push these numbers to Welcome to e164.org

thank you

km

[PhoneGnome]

We do not push the entry to ENUM.org on behalf of the customer for privacy reasons. However, since each customer has a public SIP address, those that wish to, are welcome to add their number to enum.org.

PhoneGnome does query enum.org when resolving numbers.

[kieranmullen2]

Thank you for the response. Since ENUM does not have to contain name or other contact information, what privacy issues would there be exactly? I have three entries in the db yes I am not searchable in the white pages index.

Basically you have a database with a load of telephone numbers in it which are about as useful as someone randomly dialing telephone numbers.

Maybe I am missing something? FUD?

[DracoFelis]

Originally Posted by PhoneGnome

We do not push the entry to ENUM.org on behalf of the customer for privacy reasons. However, since each customer has a public SIP address, those that wish to, are welcome to add their number to enum.org.

And if I'm not mistaking, the free SIP Broker ENUM lookup service is still setup to check your ENUM root.

So anyone setup to call via SIP Broker (either directly, or via a service that peers with SIP Broker), can use SIP Broker's ENUM lookup service to call PhoneGnome users. And another alternative (for calling PhoneGnome users) from SIP Broker, is to dial *746 before the actual phone number, in order to redirect the call to PhoneGnome's proxy (and from there have the call be redirected to the PhoneGnome you are trying to reach).

[kieranmullen2]

Sipbroker is not the same thing as enum nor do they run enum.

Sipbroker is a pstn gateway to the internet which will access registered providers like pg directly.

However sipbroker does do enum lookups on the e614 database. So regardless of your provider and even if that provider is not listed in the sipbroker provider, you can call them provided you have some way to access your location via dns... whether it be static or dyanmic dns

If you are registered with Enum then when you call the access number all you have to do is to enter your telephone number... no provider code is needed....

[DracoFelis]

Originally Posted by kieranmullen2

Sipbroker is not the same thing as enum nor do they run enum.

No kidding! I'm a SIP Broker volunteer, so I clearly know what SIP Broker is, and what it is not. So I can only conclude that you failed to understand the point I was trying to make in my previous post

My point was that SIP Broker's ENUM lookup service looks at multiple ENUM databases INCLUDING the ENUM database run by PhoneGnome. As a result, anyone using SIP Broker for their ENUM resolution, automatically finds PhoneGnome phone numbers as well!

Originally Posted by kieranmullen2

Sipbroker is a pstn gateway to the internet which will access registered providers like pg directly.

SIP Broker is more than their PSTN gateways. For example, SIP Broker is also a service that makes it easy for members of different VoIP providers to easily call each other.

Originally Posted by kieranmullen2

However sipbroker does do enum lookups on the e614 database.

Yes, SIP Broker has the ability to look up numbers e164.org ENUM root. And you might be surprised to know, that the SIP Broker folks and the group that started the e164.org ENUM database, got together in the joint venture that is now know as the VoXaLot VoIP service. So SIP Broker people are not only aware of e164.org, but they actually work with each other!

However, while the SIP Broker ENUM lookup checks e164.org, that's not the only ENUM database it checks. And one of the other 4 ENUM databases that SIP Broker checks is the one that PhoneGnome runs. So if all you want is to have automatic detection of your PhoneGnome number when dialed via SIP Broker, it should already be in place (no need to also add the number to e164.org's ENUM root)!!!

Originally Posted by kieranmullen2

If you are registered with Enum then when you call the access number all you have to do is to enter your telephone number... no provider code is needed....

And my point is that there is more to ENUM than e164.org. The ENUM standard lets any group that wants to, to make their own ENUM database. And which groups/equipment access which ENUM databases is up to them. So it's impossible to just say that some number is "in ENUM" (and therefore would be "auto-detected"), without qualifying which ENUM database you are talking about!

And if you are talking specifically about the SIP Broker PSTN (gateway) numbers, they should already be using SIP Broker's (multi-database) ENUM lookup for ENUM resolution, and SIP Broker's ENUM lookup should include PhoneGnome's ENUM database. As a result, SIP Broker PSTN numbers/gateways should already recognize PhoneGnome users without the provider code (giving the provider code for PhoneGnome won't hurt things, but in most cases it shouldn't be needed for calling a PhoneGnome user from SIP Broker). At least that's the way it should be working. Are you saying that feature is "broken", and not currently working?

[kieranmullen2]

The latter post was much better than the former.

I did fail to touch a few points, but since I thought I was trying to explain it to someone who had no idea what it was I decided to give you the readers digest version.

Some people get turned off by having to read pages and pages. :-)

PS I didnt say there was only one enum. I just prefer one e164.org over others. Plus like you say there is no point in mentioning ones that other users done have access to. ie My asterisk box cant very well look in the phonegnome enum can it? However it does look at e164.arpa-e164.info-e164.org and getting back to the point of the original post rather that puffing ourselves by telling everyone how much we know... how about we use it?

Put PG dids in public enum so asterisk users (and yes others who use it directly with other programs) can call pg users directly :-)