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Old November 2nd, 2006, 10:27 PM
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Default Advanced Configuration: CAN THIS BE DONE?

Hello all!

I'm new at this dial plan configuration stuff, but I'm trying. I have a SPA3000 and want to attempt the following configuration. Before I begin to attempt to write the dialplans for it, I would like to be sure it can even be done. So please let me know.

I would like to do the following:

1. Setup VOIP1 & VOIP2 with seperate accounts (no biggy, but theres more)

2. Utilize PSTN - VOIP2 with caller ID Authentication (specifically wifey's and my cell numbers) otherwise ringthru to line 1.

3. Set up 2 separate gateways for VOIP2 (one for wifey and other for me), this way I can assign them separate accounts.

4. Whenever Line 1 is off hook (calling PSTN or VOIP), PSTN - VOIP2 should return busy and Vice Versa, if PSTN - VOIP2 is in use then Line 1 would sound busy.

Basically setting up 3 separate accounts on the SPA3000 and being able to utilize Line 1 for incoming PSTN, outgoing PSTN & VOIP1 calls. While allowing PSTN incoming for VOIP2 calls, using 2 gateway accounts and caller ID authentication.

Hope I'm not dreaming and this IS really possible. I thank those of you that take a gander and let me know, appreciate it!

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Old November 3rd, 2006, 01:51 AM
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I have a 3102 rather that a 3000 but

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1. Setup VOIP1 & VOIP2 with seperate accounts (no biggy, but theres more)
Yes, that should be no problem.


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2. Utilize PSTN - VOIP2 with caller ID Authentication (specifically wifey's and my cell numbers) otherwise ringthru to line 1.
Again, this should be simple enough. I dont own a cell phone or a wifey. You can seth the device so that incoming pstn will transfer to VOIP and you can dial on..
Transfer on no answer say after 5 rings. If you have caller ID it can be set so that action it takes will depend on the ID or it can be made to accept a password.


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3. Set up 2 separate gateways for VOIP2 (one for wifey and other for me), this way I can assign them separate accounts.
Again, you can do this. You will want to create a dialplan that accomodates this.

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4. Whenever Line 1 is off hook (calling PSTN or VOIP), PSTN - VOIP2 should return busy and Vice Versa, if PSTN - VOIP2 is in use then Line 1 would sound busy.
I am not quite sure what you are asking here. I sounds like it can probably be do,e


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Basically setting up 3 separate accounts on the SPA3000 and being able to utilize Line 1 for incoming PSTN, outgoing PSTN & VOIP1 calls. While allowing PSTN incoming for VOIP2 calls, using 2 gateway accounts and caller ID authentication.
Your best source of information is probably the Sipura website and the SPA 3000
manual that is available there.

Good Luck!
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: Advanced Configuration: CAN THIS BE DONE?

I am not quite sure what you are asking here. I sounds like it can probably be do,e


Since I only have that one PSTN line, I would like to keep using it for answering business calls. So the fact that I will also be using the Cell - PSTN - VOIP2 configuration shouldn't limit the ability of someone at the office being able to pick up the phone and dial out over VOIP1 or PSTN, but if at that moment I try and call in thru the PSTN I should get a busy signal. Hmm.. I seem to have lost myself here.. LOL.

ok.. If for example Line1 is off hook and connected to VOIP1, and at that moment PSTN recieves a call, I don't want that call to be forwarded to VOIP2, I would want it to get a busy signal.

Same going the other way, if PSTN is off hook and connected to VOIP2 with a call, and at that moment someone in the office picks up the handset (Line1), I want them to hear a busy signal.


As for the SPA3K manual.. LOL, thats how I came up with this crazy idea!

Thanks by the way! I appreciate it.

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Old November 3rd, 2006, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: Advanced Configuration: CAN THIS BE DONE?

ALL,

I really would like to know if I can do all of this at one time? Will the SPA3K be able to work all these settings at once? Does it give me that amount of capability? If so, then how much of this will be "Dial Plan" ?

I have been through the manual and will probably read it 20x more but the dial plan is what I find a little tricky. However I wanted to know if there may be some conflicting parameters that I have not taken into consideration?

Any suggestions?
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 08:13 AM
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4. Whenever Line 1 is off hook (calling PSTN or VOIP), PSTN - VOIP2 should return busy and Vice Versa, if PSTN - VOIP2 is in use then Line 1 would sound busy.
That's the part you're not going to get.. the only way to get a busy signal when calling in from the gateway part of the device (there are two parts.. an ATA box (line1&voip1), and a gateway (pstn line & voip2)) is if you disable gateway functionality and route everything directly to line 1. If you enable ringthrough, the device shouldn't block calls just if line 1 is busy.. rather the caller will get the ringing indicator until the call is picked up by the gateway.
If you throw an SPA9k into the mix, and register the ATA part of the SPA3k with the SPA9k (or connect the analog phone to one of the FXS ports on the SPA9k), then it's no problem having it like that.. you'd program a hotline cutover DP on the SPA3k, so all calls get routed through the SPA9k, and it returns a busy to the SPA3k if the line you're trying to call is busy.
The drawback here is losing hop on hop off functionality.. I've tried some kind of "pick up pstn call, then press 1 to call through the spa9k, and press 2 to use the gateway functionality" but I never managed to get that working.

As a side note.. where I'm from, calling my home line and from there another PSTN line would actually cost me more than directly calling the PSTN line I intend to call in the first place.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 10:40 AM
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If a call comes in on voip and you answer the PSTN line is still available, can ring and be answered. If you set the answering on that line to only forward on certain CID and transfer that is what will happen. With the wrong CID you can have the line simply ring or go to voicemail. I have one phone connected directly to PSTN and the rest via voip. Someone can be talking on voip and the PSTN phone at the same time.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 08:15 PM
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That's the part you're not going to get.. the only way to get a busy signal when calling in from the gateway part of the device (there are two parts.. an ATA box (line1&voip1), and a gateway (pstn line & voip2)) is if you disable gateway functionality and route everything directly to line 1. If you enable ringthrough, the device shouldn't block calls just if line 1 is busy.. rather the caller will get the ringing indicator until the call is picked up by the gateway.


Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll just have to leave it be and allow Line1 - VOIP1 capability while PSTN - VOIP2 is active. I guess I was worried about the PSTN - VOIP2 call getting messed up or something, if Line1 tried calling out on it while it was off hook.

Thanks again!
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 08:30 PM
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If a call comes in on voip and you answer the PSTN line is still available, can ring and be answered. If you set the answering on that line to only forward on certain CID and transfer that is what will happen. With the wrong CID you can have the line simply ring or go to voicemail. I have one phone connected directly to PSTN and the rest via voip. Someone can be talking on voip and the PSTN phone at the same time.
What if I set up the 2 cell numbers I want as CIDs (with appropriate gateways for SP's accounting purposes) and allow all others to ringthru, will Line1 interfere if it dials a PSTN number?

Also, how do I tell Line1 that its about to make a PSTN call as opposed to a VOIP call? I imagine it's a dialplan configuration and I have been reading a bit (really need more time) into it, but I'm still ignorant to a lot of it.

Any info is greatly appreciated! Thanks for the help Guys!
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 08:47 PM
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What if I set up the 2 cell numbers I want as CIDs (with appropriate gateways for SP's accounting purposes) and allow all others to ringthru, will Line1 interfere if it dials a PSTN number?
Obviously it will if the PSTN line is in use.. there can be but one active call on an analog line.. I would imagine you get a fast busy when trying to dial a number that goes out via PSTN.

There are tons of threads on the SPA3k.. you should have no trouble finding ample information on how to write a DP for your Line1.
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Old November 4th, 2006, 06:11 PM
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There are tons of threads on the SPA3k.. you should have no trouble finding ample information on how to write a DP for your Line1.
Well, My VOIP 1 and VOIP 2 "with separate VOIP Accounts" configurations and My Line1 configuration are done I think. For setting up the separate VOIP accounts I reffered to section 4.13.1 of the ATA User Guide (SPA-1000/1001/2000/2100/3000), and for the Line 1 configuration, I used a simple Dial Plan to be able to switch back and forth between VOIP I and PSTN.

I added whats in green to [line1 tab] dial plan and it worked Great!

(<9,:>xxxxxxx<:@gw0>|*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.)

The above allows me to switch over to my PSTN by pressing 9 , then I can dial up to a 7 digit local number (shown in green), or I can just dial straight out using VOIP1.

"AWESOME"!!! "I Love This Little Blue/Gray Box"!!

The rest of the dial plan allows me to call via VOIP (1 or 2) to any country and USA 11 digit long distance (1-area code-#).

Now this next part; Recieving a ring thru from the PSTN to Line1 was necessary so that I can use this one phone for incoming PSTN calls also. Well that was too easy, I found the instructions in the ATA User Guide (SPA-1000/1001/2000/2100/3000) in section 4.13.4. This Guide is really Good and I recommend it to all Newbies (like me)!

Now, I need to begin working on the Dial Plans for the 2 gateways I want for PSTN - VOIP2. If anyone has some info on some Dial Plans that may work for me, I sure would appreciate a qucik reply.

Thanks.
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