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Old December 29th, 2006, 07:40 PM
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Hi Guys,

These days lot of people are taking VoIP adapters to India like Vonagege,Sunrocket,Tringotel(Yes they say you can use in
India but they dont have licenses in India) .DOT is coming up with stringent actions to curb these people .Please check the article .,There are lot of Licensed providers in India who provide free adapters ,onsite installations plus they are legal in India .Please check Welcome to Convex Communications .Let's stop illegal usage in India and go for Legal providers in India. Im using their service ,am an NRI this way im trying to give back something back to my country .Go with Legal VOIP providers in India,there are a lot of them. Stop illegal providers its high time to give something (This is my feeling).


NEW DELHI: After blogs and websites, the government is planning a clampdown on BPOs and KPOs over, what it feels is, illegal use of internet telephony.

It is giving final touches to a proposal under which ITeS companies must furnish the names of authorised service providers from whom bandwidth and internet telephony minutes have been taken. The companies will also have to give an undertaking that they will not use the services of unlicensed foreign service providers such as Net2Phone, Vonage, Dialpad, Impetus, Novanet, Euros, Skype and Yahoo.

As per Department of Telecommunications’ (DOT) estimates, these unlicensed service companies provide 30 million minutes of internet telephony per month to corporates, call centres and BPOs in the country.

According to official sources, foreign players such as Skype, in addition to disturbing the level-playing field for bonafide licensees, were also causing great revenue loss to the government as they did not pay the 12% service tax and 6% revenue share on internet telephony. Sources said DoT was keen to implement this move on security grounds too. Foreign service providers could be a “serious security threat as they did not come under any Indian regulator and policy framework,” they added.

The CEO of a leading BPO company claimed, on conditions of anonymity, that the larger ITeS organisations were well aware of regulatory issues, and were abiding by the law, but pointed out that the issue may be more prevalent in case of smaller BPOs. “However, one also needs to keep in mind that technology is changing rapidly and it will be hard to monitor such things. The policy in the next few years also needs to look at cost-effective technologies that offer significant economic benefits to businesses,” the executive said.

The government move, when implemented, will fulfil a long-pending demand of internet service providers (ISPs). Internet Service Providers Association of India president Rajesh Chharia said: “It is essential that the government seeks this undertaking from call centres as these foreign service providers do not possess the requisite licences as mandated by the Government of India for Indian ISPs.”

Once this proposal is implemented, the government, in case of an emergency, would be able to trace details of all internet telephony minutes. This is because, when minutes are purchased from authorised players, the company is mandated to provide any data pertaining to the use of internet telephony like call detail record, if required by the security agencies.

ISPAI has also demanded that the DoT put a notice on its websites indicating the names of operational ISPs having internet telephony licenses so that call centres and BPOs can ensure that they are availing services from an authorised service provider.
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Is there a list of "authorized" providers?
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1) Welcome to Convex Communications is a authorized licensed provider,providing Legal internet telephony.I have their service,they are pretty good.

I will let you know of more soon.
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Hi Guys,

These days lot of people are taking VoIP adapters to India like Vonagege,Sunrocket,Tringotel(Yes they say you can use in
India but they dont have licenses in India) .DOT is coming up with stringent actions to curb these people .Please check the article .,There are lot of L
It seems to me that governments are not grown up to the challenge of the Internet. As far as telefony is concerned keeping the monopoly of the national telecom is one way to addreess this challenge. The other way is liberalisation of telecom.

The first approach brings profit only to the large telecom company, the second is much more favourable for the consumers. Of course it doesn'mean that the service of the Convex Communications is not excellent, but free competion is better than state control and monopoly.

In the European Union due to the liberalisation, telephone rates has been decreasing very fast which is good not only for private persons but for companies as contributes to lower costs of production/service.
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1) Welcome to Convex Communications is a authorized licensed provider,providing Legal internet telephony.I have their service,they are pretty good.

I will let you know of more soon.
sorry for being brash.. but what a rip off.. for $25 they provide free 'incoming' and 100 minutes (worth probably $1~$2 max).. ?? they really need to grow up.. though they are 'legal' but they don't have to rip off of people.. for $25 they can provide unlimited outgoing to US (as compared to vonage/sunrocket)..

rahul, are you seem to associated with convex.. since that is only company you have mentioned along with a threating 'cracking down' post..
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hi
i think our friend is promoting ICT Convex (India) Pvt Ltd or is working for it and this is an ad. the service is not sooo good and pretty expensive . the other licesened providers in india are net4india (net2phone), pulse.in (pulse telecom, canada) , world comm (at&t)
net4in and pulse have prepaid packages and the competition is bringing the rates down. pulse is offering Inr 1 per min (2 cents$ approx) to usa and land lines in many locations .the goverment is not curbing they just whant their share of taxes and some monitiring of services

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