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Old April 26th, 2006, 06:18 PM
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Default 911 alternatives

I hoped that in starting this thread others will contribute. Perhaps if this list can grow, we can publish this list elsewhere.....

Those of us who use VoIP services, especially those that "Roll your own", may have looked for alternatives for 911 dialing. I know it is not e911 however most 911 centews have a regular PSTN number that reaches the same operators. This can often be implemented into a Sipura Dial Plan or a quick dial sequence.

Here are the ones that I know of:

DO NOT CALL THESE NUMBERS UNNECESSARILY! These are the equivalent of emergency 911 numbers!

Suffolk County NY
1 631 852 6454

Portland and Multnomah County Oregon
1 503 760 6911
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Old April 26th, 2006, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: 911 alternatives

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I hoped that in starting this thread others will contribute. Perhaps if this list can grow, we can publish this list elsewhere.....

Those of us who use VoIP services, especially those that "Roll your own", may have looked for alternatives for 911 dialing. I know it is not e911 however most 911 centews have a regular PSTN number that reaches the same operators. This can often be implemented into a Sipura Dial Plan or a quick dial sequence.

Here are the ones that I know of:

DO NOT CALL THESE NUMBERS UNNECESSARILY! These are the equivalent of emergency 911 numbers!

Suffolk County NY
1 631 852 6454

Portland and Multnomah County Oregon
1 503 760 6911
I can add that I think these emergency #'s are called PSAP's. This web site might be of interest http://ng911.tamu.edu/

Jonathan
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Those of us who use VoIP services, especially those that "Roll your own", may have looked for alternatives for 911 dialing. I know it is not e911 however most 911 centews have a regular PSTN number that reaches the same operators. This can often be implemented into a Sipura Dial Plan or a quick dial sequence.
Yep.

That's how I setup 911 (on my SPA-3000) quite some time ago. I just called the non-emergency number for my area's "county sheriff"), and asked if there was a number I could call if/when there was an emergency, and I had a phone that couldn't handle 911. They were happy to answer my question, and I setup my SPA-3000's dial plan to convert 911 to a "speed dial call" to that number.

FYI: In my case, I was told that the "non-emergency" number I called was fine for this purpose, because it actually reached the 911 dispatch center for my area (and those dispatchers were used to getting "emergency calls" on that "non-emergency" number). However, in other areas you need a different number for "emergencies", than for "non-emergencies". But whatever number you need, there is a good chance you can get it by simply (calling the non-emergency number and) asking!

NOTE:
This "trick" will NOT give you e911, it will only give you "basic 911". i.e. the enhanced location info of ENHANCED 911 will NOT be present. But at least by doing things this way, if/when someone dials 911 (from a "phone" in your house) "in an emergency", they will be connected to emergency personal (they just may have to also tell them the address, as that info isn't always passed along when doing the calls this way).

But even with those limits, who's complaining? IMHO this is a very "cheap" way to add 911 to your VoIP adapter, even if/when you have VoIP provider(s) that don't supply 911 service!
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Old April 26th, 2006, 07:00 PM
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Any idea where to get these emergency numbers for north of the border (Canada).

Any related websites?

Thanks
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Old April 27th, 2006, 09:56 PM
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Trust the five-o, with your life? Naw-uh. Not me.

Talking about "911 alternatives"

I'm not gonna hide in the closet and pray 911 will come. I got all the protection I need right here, with the good old fashioned shotgun.

If a criminal is going to kill you, he'll do it in less than 20 minutes. It's life-or-death, split-second. Picking up a phone won't help you. Picking up a shotgun, will.

Britain doesn't allow guns; highest crime rate in 1st world countries. Switzerland requires every man to have a gun. Lowest crime rate in the world. Guns save lives.

That's my 911 alternative.
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Old May 8th, 2006, 11:01 PM
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Yianis,

Call you local non emergency number and ask. When you find it, post it here.
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Edmonton Police's non-emergency number says it is capable of answering emergency calls in case you cannot directly dial 911. However it is not the 'same' thing as the PSAP for the city (region?) which is run in the province of Alberta by the Telus telco, and there is no way to directly reach the PSAP by calling a local phone number. However it should be sufficient as a 911 substitute to dispatch emergency police, fire, and paramedic personnel.

Edmonton Police Non-Emergency Number: +1 780 423 4567
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