New here and have question....

[teardropglass]

2) |<00:011>xx.|

With this element, when I dial 00 33 123456789 or any number starting with 00, the SPA processes it and sends 011 33 123456789 to BV.


Thanks for the information on that one. This reminds me of some horrible math class in school.

Where can I place this:
|<00:011>xx.|

In my dial plan which is,
(*xx|#xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.)


Ayy. I am going to play around with that wizard as well, but mind filling the blanks on that one. All I care to do is not dial 011 for the international access number. And to just dial 1 for US numbers.

Cheers

[mberlant]

There are three exposures in what has been proposed above with regard to 00 dialing.

First, you need to prevent the dialing of Country Code 1 with a North American service provider like BV. Calls to 00-1-NXX-NXX-XXXX will not go through. That element needs to be <00:011>[2-9]xxxxx. in order to work right.

Second, having added 00 as a legitimate destination code you must remove the 00 element from the old Dial Plan. Go ahead and remove the 0 next to it, as it serves no purpose, either.

Third, it's a good idea to get rid of the xxxxxxxxxxxx. element, which will permit misdialed calls to go the wrong way.

If you want to, you can add an element <00:>1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 to your Dial Plan to cover someone else in your home (or yourself) who picks up the phone and dials a North American phone number the European way accidentally.

[davelissa]

I believe the SPAs read dial plans left to right.

I would suggest the following:

(*xx|#xx|611|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<0:01144>[2-9]x.|011xx.)

This would mean that

The 611 is for BV customer service.

If you start a number with a 1, the Sipura would assume that you're dialling US numbers (green section).

If you start a number with 02 to 09, the Sipura would assume that you're dialling UK numbers and would add the appropriate 00144 (blue section).

Numbers starting with 011 is for other international calling (purple).

I have no idea why the "0|00", so I omitted them.

This is rather skimpy, but it should work, I believe.

Regards,
Dave

[mberlant]

Originally Posted by davelissa

I believe the SPAs read dial plans left to right.

True, to a point, but it is much more important to make sure that none each Dial Plan element is mutually exclusive with every other element.

Originally Posted by davelissa

If you start a number with 02 to 09, the Sipura would assume that you're dialling UK numbers and would add the appropriate 00144 (blue section).

Unfortunately, UK phone numbers don't start with 02 through 09. Geographic Codes begin with 01 and 02, with some of 03 in reserve for expansion. Rizsher has also included 07 in his Dial Plan, which also covers mobile services and some special services. Also, it is good practice to specify the number of digits when they are known to be of a fixed length and cut the call through with S0. So, this element should be <0:01144>[127]xxxxxxxxxS0

Originally Posted by davelissa

Numbers starting with 011 is for other international calling (purple).

Here, too, if we are customizing (sorry, customising) this Dial Plan for UK use I would do the whole job. Again, as rizsher did for his calling to Country Codes beginning with 2-9, I would use the Dial Plan element <00:011>[2-9]xxxxx.. I would also adjust the element for calling to Country Code 1 to be <00:>1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0

Originally Posted by davelissa

I have no idea why the "0|00", so I omitted them.

I also have no idea why BV keeps these two codes, which they do not even honor, in their default Dial Plan. They must be removed in order to not be confused with UK's codes for STD and international dialling.

Originally Posted by davelissa

(*xx|#xx|611|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<0:01144>[2-9]x.|011xx.)

So, the newest iteration of the Dial Plan becomes:

(*xx|#xx|611S0|<00:>1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<0:01144>[127]xxxxxxxxxS0|<00:011>[2-9]xxxxx.)

All ambiguities are removed and, with the exception of 611 for BV Customer Service, all dialling is according to UK standard.

[rizsher]

Monsiur Berlant,

Very very elegant. Thanks. Just one thing, I just checked IDD codes to see if any other country had an IDD code startign with 1, and it turns out, Barbados, Trinidad, Cayman Islands, Britihs Virgin Islands etc etc have codes that go +1 XXX. These places are not included in the BV Unlimited plans. 1) Do we still dial 1 868 12345678 to dial Trinidad for instance, or, do we have to dial 011 1 868 12345678. 2) With this in mind, does the dialplan you've suggested change?.

[teardropglass]

OK, so after reading these posts, I have created my dial plan. My only goal is to dial 1.xxx.xxxx and reach an American number, or 00.xx.xxx.xxxx to dial internationally. So, this is the code that I am now using to get my Sipura to act like a European-based phone. I suppose I could add another section in there to get the box to dial local Swiss numbers, but I don't need that:

(*xx|#xx|611S0|1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<00:011>[2-9]xxxxx.)

This seems to work. I tried dialling 611, an American number (1800xxxxxx), and a British one (0044xxxxxxxx). They all worked. Does this plan cover it?

Cheers

[teardropglass]

I called BV customer support to see if one could update your dial plan on their side and he said yes. At present, I have to turn off all provisioning because I want to keep this dial plan that I have inserted in the Line 1 section. If I turn the provisioning back on then I will lose that dial plan.

I believe I shall keep my provisioning off for the future because I can set my own proxy that way to proxy-bos or proxy-dca (both are better than any other for European customers), and use this dial plan.

Are there any other downsides to turning provisioning off? I suppose that new codecs will be turned on as they provide future support for less bandwidth hungry codecs.

Cheers

[davelissa]

I've been trying hard not to show my ignorance of UK dialling, but I guess the truth is out *sigh* I should have realized that not every country reserves 011 for international dialling. Sri Lanka (my country of origin) doesn't.

The addition of the S0 after 611, and other little additions are indeed a most elegant addition to the dialing...pardon me...dialling plan.

Thanks for the input and corrections, mberlant.
Dave